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Am I missing something for getting ALL colors associated with a document to show up in the color pallette?

Quark Dudes, I need to have access to them all. Also, a way to marry colors up would be great (look at Scitex's SpotColor XT).

The Quark folks can't know what you might be "missing" until they know what you've already done. :) Tell us your OS, your XPress version, and what you're trying to do and what you've already tried.

peace,
Linda :)

Spot colors from placed graphics don't show up in the color pallette. Running Quark 6 on OSX.3.4. The color pallette only shows, for example, PANTONE 186 C. In Illustrator the same color is called out as PANTONE 186 CV. The CV version doesn't show up in the color pallette.

When you print or export a PDF the extra color plates show up. You need to be able to first see all the colors associated with the file. Then you need to be able to marry the colors up for output. For example when going to press PANTONE 186 C, PANTONE 186 CV, *PANTONE 186, 186 RED and PANTONE 186 CVU probably all need to go onto the same separation.

Sorry, that doesn't seem too clear. What I should have is:

When you print or export a PDF the extra color plates show up in the Post RIPped file.

I can't help on your first question, because I've never seen an spot eps graphic that didn't add its colors to the color palette. But I do know that to combine two or more seps to a single plate you will need an imposition extension such as INposition.

"... because I've never seen an spot eps graphic that didn't add its colors to the color palette"


But, if you place an Illustrator .eps containing PANTONE 186 CV into Quark 6 you'll get PANTONE 186 C in the pallette. When you generate postscript (.ps or .pdf) you will have a separation for each - PANTONE 186 C and PANTONE 186 CV. Right now I can export as PDF and then take care of the problem with PitStop, but I shouldn't have to. Need to be able to see both in Quark (just as you used to) and it'd be very nice to be able to marry the separations up inside Quark.

There are vendor specific Xtensions for marrying seperations (ie Scitex Spot Color XT or Screen's ST-X), but I'd like to see Quark write it into the application.

Haven't come across a Scitex (or Creo) Spot palette for v6 yet. Have used it in v4 and v5 to a Brisque and it works well including changing ink opacities, associating colours with other colours, overprinting. The only suggestion I can come up with is to name the colours the same ie Pantone 283C in each application, which I think comes out as Pantone 283 in v6 (I may be wrong there though). A pain I know but until this type of functionality is built into quark either by extension or the main program I think it is your only option. As I remember though as long as CVC is not used our Brisque treats Pantone??, Pantone??C and Pantone??CV as the same colour. (Don't quote me there though) You should end up with the spots on the same plate then. Lets just hope v7 has it!?!

I think that I read that you need to edit the name of the color in XPress before bringing in the art, so that you have only one color plate...

Does that work for you?

Rich,
Yes, I see your point now. It seems that Acrobat is more precise in its seps than Quark. Initially I missed your point because we don't employ a pdf workflow here. The offending document would separate correctly from Quark, but shows multiple plates from Acrobat. I can see how that could become a real PITA...
Dave

Most RIPs utilize composite workflows, now; PDF or otherwise.

Well, I'll have to take your word on that one Rich. We're one of the little guys using a Harlequin RIP to output to a small format poly CTP device.