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QXP8.... When will it be ??

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  • 06-13-2008 7:57 AM

    • Binky
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    QXP8.... When will it be ??

    I see that Amazon.co.uk has the QXP8 upgrade package on for £316.99, delivered FREE in the UK with Super Saver Delivery.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Quark-Xpress-Upgrade-PC-Mac/dp/B0019BXVPA

    What is more significant is that the release date is June 19th, just six days from now !!!

    Do we have more than a vague notion of when the "blessed event" will happen over here in the Colonies ???

    Binky

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  • 06-13-2008 8:11 AM In reply to

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    Hi, Binky,

     the official statement on this is "QuarkXPress 8 will be available worldwide within 60 days of being announced." Announcement day was May 29.

    As QuarkXPress 8 is a global product, there will not be US first, then UK and Japan later. It is the same product (technically), the UI languages will be determined upon install (by the validation code or your choice when installing the Evaluation Version).

    Being global and therefore having the same file format worldwide means QuarkXPress 8 will be available simultaneously worldwide and of course you can open each document produced with QuarkXPress 8, no matter where it was produced. Plus, you have all the same languages for hyphenation and spellchecking inside your QuarkXPress. English, French, German, Russian, Spanish, Japanese, Chinese and so on. 35+ languages.

    Whether all distribution channels will have the product available on the same day in all countries and when exactly that will be is something I do not know. It will be latest in 45 days from today (60 minus 15 days).

    Best
    Matthias

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  • 06-13-2008 9:05 AM In reply to

    • thing
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    Re: QXP8.... When will it be ??

     If it's technically the same program whether it's in the UK, the US or Japan (or wherever) then it should, surely, be the same price across the world regardless of currency or a person should be able to buy from wherever they want and install in whatever country.

    So, will the UK version be much, much closer in price to the US one, allowing for the fact that 1 GBP buys nearly 2 USDs? Bet not. Will I (or whoever) be able to source the program from the States at a significantly lower price then? Bet not.

     Sorry Matthias but I think you know this is one of my major bug-bears with software companies, not just Quark, and if as you say this program isn't localised (though what the difference between International English and US English in, say, Adobe products is supposed to be I don't know) then there's one less reason for inflated pricing!

    I look forward to seeing the product available in the US at, say, $700 USD and in the UK at, say, £400 GBP. A fair equal.

    Greg 

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  • 06-13-2008 9:15 AM In reply to

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    Hi, Greg,

    thing:
    ... if as you say this program isn't localised...

    of course the UI of application is localized.

    I would very much struggle with a Chinese UI as you would probably with a German interface. Imagine it like an iPhone or a car: The British model of a car is technically the same as the German one, though the position of the steering wheel as well as the writing on the buttons are different (and it is essential that it is different).

    Thanks
    Matthias

    Matthias Günther
    Senior Product Manager
    Quark Software Inc.

    (Please note: As I am traveling frequently, answering your post might sometimes take longer)


    Want to easily publish for the iPad, using high-fidelity designs with stunning interactivity? See here:
    English: http://youtu.be/Gldk5lvXXTA
    French: http://youtu.be/nsgB4Q7lQzg
    German: http://youtu.be/lecdenqaUGY
    Italian: http://youtu.be/wjBpYZsF-8s


    Need help? Contact Quark's support: http://support.quark.com/contact_us.html


    Please don't install the newest update 10.7.3 of Mac OS X Lion yet.
    For details please see here: http://goo.gl/AzKeR

  • 06-13-2008 9:35 AM In reply to

    Re: QXP8.... When will it be ??

    Matthias Guenther (Quark):
    Imagine it like an iPhone
     

    the entry iPhone3G will not cost more than $199 anywhere its sold, so says Steve Jobs at the WWDC. it will be £99 in the UK.

    We would happily put up with color being spelt without the u for a £125 saving...

     oh hang on a minute, if I fire up the Help on my IE version of quark7 it is spelt without the u.

    ... there was the puzzle of why the sun came out during the day, instead of at night when the light would come in useful.
    Terry Pratchet
  • 06-15-2008 8:16 AM In reply to

    • s.caaty
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    Re: QXP8.... When will it be ??

    Glenn McDowall:
    the entry iPhone3G will not cost more than $199 anywhere its sold, so says Steve Jobs at the WWDC. it will be £99 in the UK.


    Must be marketing. Or wishful thinking. Or Apple forgot the currency symbol.

    For Holland the iPhoneG3 has not been announced yet, for Austria it is official: EUR 149, so $231. And for Germany rumour mill has it starting at EUR 169, so $262. Dooh!

    And cmon you Brits, stop whining. If you'd really care about justice, then you guys would fight for Adobe and Quark to raise English prices to the Europe level. That'd be fair. Well, still not, you guys earn more than the Dutch or even Swiss, so you should pay even more. We could swap prices, that be just. Let me give Adobe and Quark a call.

    Taking of salary, by the way, do you offer your customers the same (low) hourly price for designing or printing as what Americans do? Or Indians (who also speak English)? Wake up, there is just no justice in this world. [:'(]

    -scaaty

     

    P.S.: How many Brits have signed the petition against Adobe and still bought CS3? Oh, all? <sigh> 

  • 06-16-2008 2:49 AM In reply to

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    Stick out tongueNo one earns as much as the Swiss... well maybe the Scandinavians.

    you should complain that there are no orange smilies Angry

    ... there was the puzzle of why the sun came out during the day, instead of at night when the light would come in useful.
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  • 06-17-2008 8:45 PM In reply to

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    Re: QXP8.... When will it be ??

    thing:

     So, will the UK version be much, much closer in price to the US one, allowing for the fact that 1 GBP buys nearly 2 USDs? Bet not. Will I (or whoever) be able to source the program from the States at a significantly lower price then? Bet not.

     Sorry Matthias but I think you know this is one of my major bug-bears with software companies, not just Quark, and if as you say this program isn't localised (though what the difference between International English and US English in, say, Adobe products is supposed to be I don't know) then there's one less reason for inflated pricing!

    I look forward to seeing the product available in the US at, say, $700 USD and in the UK at, say, £400 GBP. A fair equal.

    Greg 

    When you wish upon a star...

    See:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Quark-Xpress-8-PC-Mac/dp/B0019C59IQ

    Today's special reduced price for QXP8 on Amazon.co.uk is £881.00 , a substantial reduction from the £919.00 price they quote as the RRP....

    £880.99 & this item Delivered FREE in the UK with Super Saver Delivery

    That translates into .... yup ... you guessed it ...

    689.95 US dollars.

    Binky

    It may have something to do with King George and a tax on tea...

  • 06-18-2008 2:18 AM In reply to

    • thing
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    Re: QXP8.... When will it be ??

     Er, cheers, but £881 GBP converts to $1,719 USD. Ouch.

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  • 06-18-2008 9:02 AM In reply to

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    Re: QXP8.... When will it be ??

    thing:

     Er, cheers, but £881 GBP converts to $1,719 USD. Ouch.

    Hmmmm...

    The currency exchange rate was intended to be fatuous.

    With international commerce and pricing there is no such thing as "converts". No matter where you live, QXP8 will be a bargain at any price. Its the best software of its type this planet has. You can quote me on that.

    As for pricing, every company sets prices for selling their commodities in each market depending on a lot of complex factors that many of us are not aware of. For example, I live in Canada close to the US border and right now our currencies are on par. Until recently it was possible for Canadians to go across the border to buy certain Japanese cars for many thousands of dollars less than the price in Canada.

    And I'm not talking peanuts. Using an average of U.S. dollar exchange rates from January to June 2006, we have determined that the typical vehicle is $5,842 (17 percent) more expensive in Canada than in the United States. To take this down to a more comprehensible level, consider the case of the Subaru Impreza WRX. In Canada, this sporty sedan lists for $35,495, while in the U.S., it bases at $24,995. And I don't mean that "until recently" to indicate that prices have normalized: I meant it to indicate that due to recent enforced policy changes at car US dealerships, designed to protect Canadian dealerships, right now American car dealerships WILL NOT SELL to Canadians.

    Of course, Apple computers, even when the Canadian dollar was 10% STRONGER than the US dollar about a year and a half ago, STILL were priced on the Apple Canada website at about 10% more in Canadian dollars than in the US, for a Canadian price / cost penalty of about 20%.

    Sometimes, ironically, it works the other way around: for an example, just check out the prices of any specific made-in-America Snapon tool box in the catalogs on the Snapon.com (US) and Snapon.ca (Canadian) websites. The boxes are all made in the USA but identical items are priced to sell for considerably LESS in Canada than they do in the States.

    Of course, all this means nothing when you talk about the price of publishing tools, like QXP.

    If a tool makes you money... then it's a bargain, and you pay for it as a cost of doing business. If you are working in an environment in which the tool is going to make you a whole big stinking HEAP of money, then you buy it no matter what it costs. The economy in Britain is amazingly robust compared to the economy over here in the Colonies and wages in Mother England are amazingly high. You can't really expect identical global pricing for a "tool" that will increase your productivity (and income) by $100,000.00 per annum if you live in London, but only by $35,000.00 per annum if you live in Toronto and only by $7,000.00 per annum if you happen to live in Madagascar or Tierra del Fuego.

    We feel your pain. Really.

    Binky

  • 06-19-2008 2:22 AM In reply to

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    "The economy in Britain is amazingly robust" it will be on its knees before year end…
  • 06-19-2008 3:44 AM In reply to

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    Re: QXP8.... When will it be ??

     And there won't be many spare pennies in this household ...

    PowerMac G5, 2.7DP, 8Gb RAM; OSX 10.4.11 and 10.5.8 (on separate drives). (Also a PowerMac 7300 that's still running Quark 4.1 on OS 8.6 ...)
  • 06-19-2008 8:35 AM In reply to

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    Re: QXP8.... When will it be ??

    I'm pleased to see that there is such a push to get people to buy QX7 and rewarding them with free copies of QX8. I also hope that this translates into a serious savings for those of us who upgraded to 7 from the beginning. QX8 doesn't seem to have a lot of new functionality and HQ isn't going to take kindly to an expensive upgrade so soon after the release of 7.0. I don't see any pricing announced, except of course for the 2fer upgrade.
  • 06-22-2008 7:33 AM In reply to

    • s.caaty
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    Re: QXP8.... When will it be ??

    Glenn McDowall:
    you should complain that there are no orange smilies
     

    Not after last night :-(

    -scaaty

  • 06-22-2008 9:02 AM In reply to

    • Binky
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    s.caaty:

    Glenn McDowall:
    you should complain that there are no orange smilies
     

    Not after last night :-(

    -scaaty

    We (I, at least) missed something.

    What happened last night ???

    Binky

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