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Quark 8 - still low-quality for EPS files?

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  • 08-07-2008 2:02 PM In reply to

    • Beavix
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    Re: Quark 8 - still low-quality for EPS files?

    I can confirm that high resolution EPS preview is working fine in Quark XPress 8. Just right click on the EPS and choose Preview Resolution -> Full Resolution. Yes, it works on vector EPS, including those without embedded preview.
  • 08-07-2008 4:05 PM In reply to

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    Re: Quark 8 - still low-quality for EPS files?

    That's correct. Click on the image you want to see at full resolution then go to the menus at the top: Item > Preview Resolution > Full Resolution

    Works in Quark 7 and 8.
    René
  • 08-08-2008 2:33 AM In reply to

    Re: Quark 8 - still low-quality for EPS files?

    the high res preview works a treat, not sure what people are moaning about, and one of the reasons I dont like ID is that it doesnt like EPS files, so I think its abit rich for them to ask me to convert all my hundreds of logos supplied to me in EPS format to AI or PDF...I dont think so!
  • 08-08-2008 2:37 AM In reply to

    Re: Quark 8 - still low-quality for EPS files?

    InDesign DOES work with EPS and displays them more clearly than XPress does but, if the screen generation turns out be the same as the output all the time I think I'd go and work in McDonalds. Too many people worry about too little things...XPress is for people who, exactly like me, work quickly and accurately on many many projects in one day.
  • 08-08-2008 6:50 AM In reply to

    Re: Quark 8 - still low-quality for EPS files?

    Thanks for the suggestions and comment.

    With all preview resolution options set to full, whilst there is a marked improvement from the low-res. option, the EPS files are still bitmapped and not-smooth as a vector should be.

    We can therefore only conclude that this is the way that Quark does it and that those happy with this are happy with less than smooth EPS files on-screen.
  • 08-08-2008 7:15 AM In reply to

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    Re: Quark 8 - still low-quality for EPS files?

    James Bowtine:
    With all preview resolution options set to full, whilst there is a marked improvement from the low-res. option, the EPS files are still bitmapped and not-smooth as a vector should be.

    You sure you're doing it correctly?

    You have to click on a picture/logo then go Item > Preview Resolution > Full Resolution then click on another picture/logo then go Item > Preview Resolution > Full Resolution etc. etc.

    You can't turn it on once and expect the other 10 pictures/logos to preview high res.
    René
  • 08-08-2008 7:20 AM In reply to

    Re: Quark 8 - still low-quality for EPS files?

    ReneG:
    James Bowtine:
    With all preview resolution options set to full, whilst there is a marked improvement from the low-res. option, the EPS files are still bitmapped and not-smooth as a vector should be.

    You sure you're doing it correctly?

    You have to click on a picture/logo then go Item > Preview Resolution > Full Resolution then click on another picture/logo then go Item > Preview Resolution > Full Resolution etc. etc.

    You can't turn it on once and expect the other 10 pictures/logos to preview high res.
    Yep! ... only 1 logo loaded for trial purposes which is a simple Adobe Illustrator EPS made up of vectors. Beautifully smooth in InDesign and when loaded into Photoshop etc. ... but in Quark 8, er, not so.

    We've been using Quark daily for 15 years, incidentally.
  • 08-08-2008 7:25 AM In reply to

    Re: Quark 8 - still low-quality for EPS files?

    James Bowtine:
    We've been using Quark daily for 15 years, incidentally.
    That's about the same time I have been using Quark and have never queried EPS display. Admittedly they're much better now than they used to be so I am grateful for that. I'm a true XPress worshipper and would hate anything more than to go over to creating harder work in InDesign. There's always ID2QX or QX2ID if I need either so for now, QXP is a thumbs up. Even more so there's the option to change the UI :-) http://forums.quark.com/p/19279/77083.aspx#77083
  • 08-08-2008 7:33 AM In reply to

    Re: Quark 8 - still low-quality for EPS files?

    davewalsh:
    James Bowtine:
    We've been using Quark daily for 15 years, incidentally.
    That's about the same time I have been using Quark and have never queried EPS display. Admittedly they're much better now than they used to be so I am grateful for that. I'm a true XPress worshipper and would hate anything more than to go over to creating harder work in InDesign. There's always ID2QX or QX2ID if I need either so for now, QXP is a thumbs up. Even more so there's the option to change the UI :-) http://forums.quark.com/p/19279/77083.aspx#77083


    Thing is, Dave - when we switched from OS 9 to OS X and purchased Quark 6 (6.5 etc.) - the software was and is so riddled with bugs it drove us to distraction. So now, we've made a conscious decision to test-drive Quark 8 before we buy it to ensure it actually does 'the basics'.

    The first thing we tried was to delete a 1pt black line and load in an EPS - it failed on both counts - the black line had been deleted but we had to do that time consuming zoom-in, zoom-out move to update the screen for Quark (which must have cost us hundreds of hours in the past), and of course the EPS files were fundamentally inaccurate.

    We're not asking for much are we?
  • 08-08-2008 7:37 AM In reply to

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    James Bowtine:
    We're not asking for much are we?
    Ha ha - no you're not and rightly so especially if it costs a mere £900!! 6.0, 6.1 and even 6.5 were horrendous I admit. Mind you even 7.0 was w*nk until 7.3 but as it's pointed out so many times in these forums - why don't they ever get it right. I think they may of done this time and it'll be Adobe's turn to wow the audience.
  • 08-08-2008 7:41 AM In reply to

    Re: Quark 8 - still low-quality for EPS files?

    davewalsh:
    James Bowtine:
    We're not asking for much are we?
    Ha ha - no you're not and rightly so especially if it costs a mere £900!! 6.0, 6.1 and even 6.5 were horrendous I admit. Mind you even 7.0 was w*nk until 7.3 but as it's pointed out so many times in these forums - why don't they ever get it right. I think they may of done this time and it'll be Adobe's turn to wow the audience.
    Amen to that.
  • 08-08-2008 8:25 AM In reply to

    Re: Quark 8 - still low-quality for EPS files?

    Does QXP 8 generate previews from the embedded file or generate them from the vector info? I know from version 7 in the EPS preferences, you can select "Embedded" or "Generate" for your previews. Why QXP takes so long to generate a preview, compared to INDY, is beyond me.

    As a side note, I've always despised the way QXP works with previews: I need accuracy when working with multiple vector formats, so need to see the vector preview at the highest my monitor will display them at whatever resolution I'm working with.

    From some of the comments here it would appear that many don't use/need that feature and are just fine with seeing the low rez embedded previews. Reminds me of the days of viewing bitmapped fonts on screen without ATM installed (which would rasterize the printer fonts to screen). This is 2008, people. INDY does it correctly and I've never had a problem with previews there; page layout looks beautiful on screen.

    I've used QXP full-time since version 2.1 and have found version 7 to be the worst of them all in a professional environment. It's inability to separate spot colors correctly - don't bother with getting separations from vectors with spot if you have transparency applied; color management's insistence on "translating" vector files, (unless turned off for each and every document), which will extend your printing time to 20 minutes per separation; picture box cache issues that linger on output even after modifying/updating the image (deleting box and starting over fixes problem), etc., etc.

    I can build files faster in QXD, needless to say, but INDY's features, including its basic functions WORKS.

    regards,

    MAJ

    (do you have to use tags for paragraphs now?)

  • 08-08-2008 8:36 AM In reply to

    Re: Quark 8 - still low-quality for EPS files?

    Well there you go - digital_dreamer swoops by to bring crisp and clear logic to validate my ramblings and add a sense of realism to the world of Quark.

    Indeed, it is 2008 and quite rightly, being grumpy about the fundamentals not working is entirely legitimate.

    And as for having to write tags in order to stop posts from looking like a chunk of Lorem Ipsum ... isn't this just the Quark way?
  • 08-08-2008 8:39 AM In reply to

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    James Bowtine:
    Lorem Ipsum ... isn't this just the Quark way
    Nah - that would be jabber ;-)
  • 08-08-2008 8:50 AM In reply to

    • s.caaty
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    Re: Quark 8 - still low-quality for EPS files?

    digitaldreamer, I just wonder about people like you. So you sit here, read hundreds of posts and when Quark cannot do something you think, well, my chance to say that Indesign is better. You have never posted before, but now you feel it has to be said, the world just must wake up.

    You don't happen to be on the payroll of A***e? No, probably not, forget it, that's just me seeing conspiracies.

    -scaaty

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