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QXP8: The manual that should have been...

Last post 10-05-2008 9:50 AM by Binky. 5 replies.
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  • 08-09-2008 10:58 AM

    • Binky
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    QXP8: The manual that should have been...

    Missing:

    The manual that should have been in the QXP8 box !!!

    The printed-on-paper manual that shipped in the box with QXP7 was an instant hit.

    I kept it beside my bed for late-night reading and I took it with me everywhere to peruse when circumstances allowed.

    Since the QXP8 Users Guide book was already written in order to create the 443-page PDF that was included on the disk, it would have been REALLY nice if a printed copy of the book had been included with the program....

    Or is it for sale at the Quark Store ? ? ?

    No doubt there will eventually be a new "Visual QuickStart Guide to QXP8" and a new "RealWorld QXP8" from David Blatnet & Peachpit Press, and a new version of "Creating Digital Documents with QXP8" from Against the Clock, but the actual QuarkXPress 8 manuals from Quark are excellent and this new one would be here now.

    And... you know what Baba Ram Dass says....

    Binky

  • 08-10-2008 1:32 AM In reply to

    Re: QXP8: The manual that should have been...

    I thought I was missing mine when it came. There appears to be a space for such a manual behind the disc, just where the pointless poster thing is sat......a hard copy is so much easier to refer to when you are in mid process of learning somthing - rather than flicking to and from another windowall the time.

     

  • 08-10-2008 4:08 AM In reply to

    Re: QXP8: The manual that should have been...

    Totally, I wonder if I better wait until Quark Store has the manual available or just go and print the whole pdf… I detest to read whatever on a computer display, I just can't… I love paper, and for once I find kind of 'ironic' something like Quark XPress lacking a proper printed manual. I can understand that for good reason, the smaller the package the better, but to include the manual wouldn't hurt that much… empty space for the sake of empty space gives the consumer a first poor impression, and on a side note, mine came badly damaged from the Apple Store, a manual would have done for a good crumple zone so to speak, but that's a different story and there I guess UPS is the one to blame. Nevertheless and besides all that complain, the self-contained QXP8 packaging is truly nice.
    Typefaces don’t come with an instruction manual.
  • 08-26-2008 7:03 AM In reply to

    Re: QXP8: The manual that should have been...

    I took up the offer to 'Buy Quark 7 upgrade, get Quark 8 upgrade free' - although 'free' meant having to pay something like £20 (around $37 at the time) for the software to be delivered. When all that arrived was a DVD in a blank sleeve I was somewhat less than delighted. It's not just a manual I want, I want the wretched thing in a box. If I'd wanted so little for my several hundred pounds ($600 or so) upgrade, I would have bought the download. Buy an upgrade from Ad*be and one at least gets a box and most of the trimmings. Barry Lane UK PS using QXP since v3
  • 10-05-2008 4:30 AM In reply to

    Re: QXP8: The manual that should have been...

    So… it is gonna be a printed manual available for purchase on Quark Store?
    Typefaces don’t come with an instruction manual.
  • 10-05-2008 9:50 AM In reply to

    • Binky
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    Re: QXP8: The manual that should have been...

    themacosxflies:
    So… it is gonna be a printed manual available for purchase on Quark Store?
    The indication so far is that after all of the work has been done to create the manual for QXP 8 .... there are no plans at this time to go the last step and commit it to paper. This really is a shame because of all of the obvious reasons that make a paper manual useful and a digital manual utterly and totally useless. I suspect that the opinion at Quark may be that since QXP8 offers absolutely no improvements over the previous version, there is really no need for a manual to come with it. Your QXP 7 manual is deemed to be good enough. Personally, I disagree. But thats just my opinion.

    May I suggest that you wait for news of QuarkXPress 8 books from O'Reilly, Peachpit Press, and Against the Clock.

    I'm sure that Elaine Weinmann and David Blatner are hard at work putting together books about QXP 8.

    Or you could print a copy of your own off the QXP 8 disk.

    I have an old Laserwriter that takes legal-size paper, 8.5 X 14 inches, and attempted to set it up to print the entire 444-page .PDF with two PDF pages per paper page, four PDF pages per paper sheet, so the entire PDF QXP 8 manual from the disk could fit on 111 paper pages, printed both sides, at 600 dpi, but gave up on it as a waste of time, paper, and toner.

    I suspect that the QuarkXPress 8 program, as retailed, would have cost a whopping $4.80 more if a printed manual had been included, and who in his right mind would go to all that expense just to have the information required to use the program ????

    Binky

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