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6 little things about 7.5 that are REALLY anoying...

Last post 10-01-2008 6:59 AM by davidhieber. 6 replies.
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  • 09-24-2008 7:38 AM

    6 little things about 7.5 that are REALLY anoying...

    Okay, first of, the FAQ and annoucement sections in this forum are WORHTLESS!  There isn't a damn piece of information there helping me a bit.  What, there's like 3 FAQ's??? Is that all? And NOTHING about Crashing? 

    Second, what is up with the Forums not loading all the time?  It's bad enough putting up with Quarks Quirks, but now the forums too? All I would like to have, if it is not asking too much, is to have a product that works out of the box.  Even Version 6.X was less problematic for me than 7.X is proving to be....

    Things I have had issues with that are not being reported in the forums:

    1. The inability to use <Command-Comma> to bring up the Align/Distribute menubox.

    2. Why must we have "Background Color" for 1-bit tiff files, and why is the default color now white instead of transparent? WTF?

    3. <Hide Quark> or <Command-H> seldom work to hide the application.  Every other app on my Hard drive does this fine, what up?

    4. Item Relative space/align items is broken, or at least BACKWARD from how it was for the first 6 versions!  Item furthest left should be anchored, not floating.  It is backward!

    5. Why does the <f12> Color window come up colapsed one time, and expanded the next?

    6. When using Picas as the Vertical Measurement unit, and using <Left Point> for line placement, the length of the line is given in Picas, not inches (this was not the case in 5 and 6).

    Maybe there should be two versions of Quark (As Adobe did with ID) a "Basic" version for just print layout, without flash plugins and web features, and an "Expanded" version that would be the bloated package you presently sell to everyone.

    Thanks for listening!

    David Hieber
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    Snow Leopard 10.6.8, Quark Xpress 8.1.6
    Suitcase Fusion 3, CS 5 Design Standard
    MacBook Al - Core 2 Duo 2.0 Ghz, 4 GB RAM
  • 09-24-2008 10:53 AM In reply to

    • geo
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    Re: 8 little things about 7.5 that are REALLY anoying...

    David, you seem to be having many more issues than most. I do find that quark is much more stable on intel based (newer, faster) macs.

    Regarding your points:

    1. Works fine for me, try trashing preferences.

    2. Yeah, keyboard shortcut was nice. But using floating pallet does work fairly well.

    3. Works fine for me, try trashing preferences.

    4. Yes, telling the picture to have none for a background is one extra step. But once you have done one, duplicate that box for all remaining 1 but tifs, and the preference will "hold" when importing each subsequent image. Not sure how quark handles legacy files, though.

    5. Option click (mac) the desktop hides program fine. But there are issues when quark is "doing things like opening files, etc", and then attempting to hide. But, truth be told, It is NOT just quark that behaves this way.

    6. Works fine for me, try trashing preferences.

    7. Works fine for me, try trashing preferences.

    8. Typesetters (here in the US of A) use picas for all layout purposes. Not sure why you would mix inches in?

    Quark 7.5 is the MOST STABLE version since 3.x. Works fine for me, try trashing preferences.

    Quark is doing a fine job. 7.5 works very well. EPS's print faster than ever before. Placed PDFs print faster than ever before.
    Works fine for me, try trashing preferences.

    Bloated, maybe. I have always wished quark only gave us a layout program. But, some of the new features in 8.x could be very valuable time-savers if you do not have web authoring tools. ONLY application in the business that does what it does regarding web/flash.

    Regarding some of your "off color" language: Works fine for me, try trashing preferences.

  • 09-24-2008 12:01 PM In reply to

    Re: 8 little things about 7.5 that are REALLY anoying...

    Thanks for the feedback Geo.  So are you content with Quarks stock preferences?  I'm not.  I prefer to have a custom set to speed up my work.  I have custom line weights, styles, style sheet, print styles, etc.  Trashing preferences takes me about thirty minutes to recreate.  I have a backup copy, but who knows whether it is corrupt or not!  Trashing preferences constantly seems ridiculous.

    I do typesetting for business forms.  Last I checked (here in the US of A) machine-printed forms print at 10 cpi horizontaly, so that is where my need for inches comes in.  If I have a vertical line, I don't care if it's length shows up in picas.  But when measuring horizontaly, I want to see its length in inches! My point here was: Why did Quark change the behavior of the program so much without giving a user the ability to change it back?  

    Option clicking the desktop must be an intel only thing, I can't get it to work.

    I will try trashing preferences (again) and will replace all of my Xpert Xtensions, and with any luck, things will "work fine for me" and I can stop using such "off color" language...

    to be continued...

    David Hieber
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    Snow Leopard 10.6.8, Quark Xpress 8.1.6
    Suitcase Fusion 3, CS 5 Design Standard
    MacBook Al - Core 2 Duo 2.0 Ghz, 4 GB RAM
  • 09-24-2008 12:27 PM In reply to

    Re: 8 little things about 7.5 that are REALLY anoying...

    Well, I trashed preferences, installed all of my Xpert Xtensions and my opinions using off color language will continue...  This is the most unreliable misrepresented crap I've delt with!  Anyone out there have a success story running on a G4-G5????

    If the product does not run well on old hardware, then Quark should not inlcude that hardware as acceptable for installion.  I am well within Quarks minimum requirements as stated on the box.  I could accept "Slow and stable" that would be just PERFECT!!!

     But this crashing stuff is absolute BS!

    David Hieber
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    Snow Leopard 10.6.8, Quark Xpress 8.1.6
    Suitcase Fusion 3, CS 5 Design Standard
    MacBook Al - Core 2 Duo 2.0 Ghz, 4 GB RAM
  • 09-25-2008 9:24 AM In reply to

    • geo
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    Re: 8 little things about 7.5 that are REALLY anoying...

    David, I understand your frustration. If slow and stable is OK, and if you don't plan to upgrade to a newer computer, the first thing I'd do is invest in more ram. With the constant updating of operating systems, programs, etc., I find that more is better. Granted, you might be within the minimum suggested amounts, but more ram might make a notable difference for you in stability AND speed. Also I don't think ram has ever been cheaper. I remember the early days of peecee's when I wanted to upgrade to 2mg the price tag was well over $1000.

    I don't know your exact model, but for a mirrored g4 you can get an 2gig upgrade kit for $85.04. I have dealt with TheChipMerchant.com for years. Very knowledgeable folks that are very helpful. But there are many sources nowadays, and you might have your own favorite(s).

    Now, again, I can't say for certain that this will fix your issues. But, for less than $100 I DO KNOW that you will have a more capable computer with more ram. If nothing else this will allow you to keep more programs active/running before getting into scratch disc ram (much slower).

     

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  • 09-25-2008 9:44 AM In reply to

    Re: 9 little things about 7.5 that are REALLY anoying...

    davidhieber:

    Work: PowerMac G4 Mirrored Door 768 RAM; Leopard 10.5.5 Quark 7.5; Suitcase Fusion

    Well, to be honest, your configuration is not adapted at all. Leopard should really be installed on at least G5, but I guess Intel processors are really needed (even if they say "minimum configuration"...). My suggestion: update the hardware and come back if those issues still come up. Sorry about that!

    Jean-Marie Schwartz

    > Mac Pro Quad Core Intel 2.8 GHz, OS X.6.8, Quark XPress 9.2, Adobe CS5 <
  • 10-01-2008 6:59 AM In reply to

    Re: 9 little things about 7.5 that are REALLY anoying...

     

    Apparently some of my issues were due to dependencies built into some of the Xpert Xtensions, see this post...

    http://forums.quark.com/t/19706.aspx

    So, hardware aside, I had a lethal combination of Xtensions turned off (I thought you were supposed to be able to do that though), and now I'm up and running.  We have a dual G5 in the department also (1 gig ram) and actually, his Quark is not much more robust than mine.  Thankfully we get paid by the hour.

    Thanks for all the feedback!

    David Hieber
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    Snow Leopard 10.6.8, Quark Xpress 8.1.6
    Suitcase Fusion 3, CS 5 Design Standard
    MacBook Al - Core 2 Duo 2.0 Ghz, 4 GB RAM
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