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Problems with fonts in SWF exported from Interactive layout

Last post 02-04-2009 9:31 AM by prophet. 10 replies.
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  • 01-13-2009 3:35 PM

    Problems with fonts in SWF exported from Interactive layout

    Hi All, I am doing my website in Interactive Layout Quark 8. The main page contains of various SWF files that in turn are subsections of the web. All of these subsections are also built as Interactive Layouts and exported as SWF and later imported onto the main page. However, when viewed at 100% all text are blurry and hard to read. I have white text on black registered 65% opacity. I am aware that it is often hard with white fonts on black backgrounds but the same happens on white background and black font. I use Myriad pro 13 with 15 spacing. I read a previous Post on the same subject but I still don’t understand how to overcome this problem. Any suggestions? Better fonts? Any chances to avoid Flash do the anti-aliasing thing? I tried to build the main page in Web layout but the problems with the font in the swf files still remain. Very anxious and happy for any help!!! Thanks
  • 01-14-2009 8:42 AM In reply to

    Re: Problems with fonts in SWF exported from Interactive layout

    Hi again! Is there anyone helpful around? Lena
  • 01-14-2009 1:28 PM In reply to

    Re: Problems with fonts in SWF exported from Interactive layout

    Hi, Lena,

    we covered the topic just last months:
    http://forums.quark.com/t/20380.aspx

    Did you read the thread? Does it apply to your site as well?

    Best
    Matthias

    Matthias Günther
    Senior Product Manager
    Quark Software Inc.

    (Please note: As I am traveling frequently, answering your post might sometimes take longer)


    Want to easily publish for the iPad, using high-fidelity designs with stunning interactivity? See here:
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    German: http://youtu.be/lecdenqaUGY
    Italian: http://youtu.be/wjBpYZsF-8s


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  • 01-15-2009 2:40 AM In reply to

    Re: Problems with fonts in SWF exported from Interactive layout

    Hi Mattihas! Thanks for attention! I read the post you recommend and I have tried all the tips mentioned but I am still not getting any clear fonts when exporting from Interactive layout to swf. My question: The only way to avoid Flash changing my fonts (and make them blurry ad unclear) is to write my texts with external image program (or in Quark weblayout) and then export the texts as images, which in turn are imported into a interactive layout in Quark? Honestly I really does no like this option.... Changes and updates of websites get quite complicated... If I have to trade between interactivity and clear fonts I choose interactivity, so the possibility to do the whole web in a web layout in Quark does not seem to be an option either…. Sorry for being so stubborn but I adore the possibilities that the Quark`s interactive layout offers and I really want to keep using it. If it was not for the font problem the program would be perfect. So I am still in need of any tips or solutions… Thanks, Lena
  • 01-15-2009 5:53 AM In reply to

    Re: Problems with fonts in SWF exported from Interactive layout

    Hi, Lena,

    I find it interesting that you are the second person now who sees anti-aliasing as a problem. I am sure Adobe/Macromedia added anti-aliasing to IMPROVE text quality and readability and not to make it look worse. Wink

    Let me talk to R&D whether we can add rasterizing text or turning off anti-aliasing in the future. In the meantime I am afraid the onyl workarounds are the ones already suggested.

    Best
    Matthias

    Matthias Günther
    Senior Product Manager
    Quark Software Inc.

    (Please note: As I am traveling frequently, answering your post might sometimes take longer)


    Want to easily publish for the iPad, using high-fidelity designs with stunning interactivity? See here:
    English: http://youtu.be/Gldk5lvXXTA
    French: http://youtu.be/nsgB4Q7lQzg
    German: http://youtu.be/lecdenqaUGY
    Italian: http://youtu.be/wjBpYZsF-8s


    Need help? Contact Quark's support: http://support.quark.com/contact_us.html


    Please don't install the newest update 10.7.3 of Mac OS X Lion yet.
    For details please see here: http://goo.gl/AzKeR

  • 01-15-2009 6:06 AM In reply to

    Re: Problems with fonts in SWF exported from Interactive layout

    Hi again Matthias! Thanks for quick answer. Ok - not everything can be perfect. I hope that R&D will consider the options you mention for the next release or update of Quark 8. Thanks for help anyway, Best regards, Lena
  • 01-15-2009 6:13 AM In reply to

    Re: Problems with fonts in SWF exported from Interactive layout

    Hi, Lena,

    R&D needs to tell us whether it is technically possible. If yes, then we can consider adding it.

    Best
    Matthias

    Matthias Günther
    Senior Product Manager
    Quark Software Inc.

    (Please note: As I am traveling frequently, answering your post might sometimes take longer)


    Want to easily publish for the iPad, using high-fidelity designs with stunning interactivity? See here:
    English: http://youtu.be/Gldk5lvXXTA
    French: http://youtu.be/nsgB4Q7lQzg
    German: http://youtu.be/lecdenqaUGY
    Italian: http://youtu.be/wjBpYZsF-8s


    Need help? Contact Quark's support: http://support.quark.com/contact_us.html


    Please don't install the newest update 10.7.3 of Mac OS X Lion yet.
    For details please see here: http://goo.gl/AzKeR

  • 01-28-2009 1:21 PM In reply to

    • prophet
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    Re: Problems with fonts in SWF exported from Interactive layout

     Hi

    Just saw this post and as I'm the other person who enquired about anti-alaising problems thought I'd mention the only easy option around this.

    Use Super-pixel fonts. I know a lot of people don't like them but nearly all flash sites use them where small type is required. You can get larger sizes as well but all must be used at 8pt in quark.  They also need to be on whole numbers - no fraction of pixels. When viewed at 100% they are pin sharp, the down side is that if you zoom in or use the web browser options to enlarge text they pixelate. I now keep my sites at 100%.

    It's not a completely satisfactory solution but until this technical problem is solved - there's not much you can do.  I still can't understand why other people on this forum haven't noticed this. There's a lot of discussion on Flash forums about this and that's where I heard about the super-pixel fonts. They are pixel fonts with small grey elements that surround the pixels, giving the text a smoother look.

    You may not like them but I've warmed to them.

    Sorry it's not better news for you.

    Cheers

     

  • 01-29-2009 2:19 AM In reply to

    • prophet
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    Re: Problems with fonts in SWF exported from Interactive layout

     A quick addition.

    I don't know if it is ok to add links to other sites on this forum but this is a good article on the problem of fonts used in flash.

    http://www.bestflashanimationsite.com/tutorials/2/    The first paragraph and the last two pages are the most relevant. Once you read this you realise that even if your swf file looks good on your machine it may not on others!

    Prophet

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  • 01-29-2009 3:00 AM In reply to

    Re: Problems with fonts in SWF exported from Interactive layout

    Hi, prophet,

    interesting link. Thanks for sharing.

    Best
    Matthias

    P.S.: You have given it a wrong hyperlink, it links back to the forums. The text link copied works fine.

    Matthias Günther
    Senior Product Manager
    Quark Software Inc.

    (Please note: As I am traveling frequently, answering your post might sometimes take longer)


    Want to easily publish for the iPad, using high-fidelity designs with stunning interactivity? See here:
    English: http://youtu.be/Gldk5lvXXTA
    French: http://youtu.be/nsgB4Q7lQzg
    German: http://youtu.be/lecdenqaUGY
    Italian: http://youtu.be/wjBpYZsF-8s


    Need help? Contact Quark's support: http://support.quark.com/contact_us.html


    Please don't install the newest update 10.7.3 of Mac OS X Lion yet.
    For details please see here: http://goo.gl/AzKeR

  • 02-04-2009 9:31 AM In reply to

    • prophet
    • Top 500 Contributor
    • Joined on 11-29-2005
    • England
    • Posts 34

    Re: Problems with fonts in SWF exported from Interactive layout

    Link is now working correctly

    prophet

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