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Hello, I decided to make my life easier and start preparing my own books for printing in Quark, i have enjoyed all of it up untill this moment. I decided to use a Cyrillic version of Times New Roman font, but i can't get it to work.The text i have in Quark now is in plain Times New Roman. The text was prepared in Word first, then imported into Quark. There are a few topics on these fonts but nothing conclusive, at least for me, as I am unfamiliar with fonts in general. I have seen a few posts on domestic sites suggesting that i should use some sort of "Unicode" to "YUSCII" conversion, going through cyrillic->latin->latin->cyrlliic, something like that, which in fact only confused me more. So, once again - shorter version:Text that needs a font change from Times New Roman to Times New Roman Cyrillic, unfortunately it gives boxes and weird signs as result. Is there any way to make this one work. Thanks. PS. Something i forgot to add - I am using Quark XPress 8 and Word 2010.

 Hi,

First, check what type of font you used for the cyrillic text in Word (more axactly - OpenType, TrueType etc.)  and what is its encoding; also, check what language is set in Word for your text.

When importing the text in Quark, make sure you're using the same font, or a font with the same encoding, and the language is set to the desired one (from Style > Character...).

Before trying to import the cyrillic text in Quark from word, you have to make the appropiate settings in your Regional Options, in the operating system (I guess you're on Windows - Win have to "understand" the correct input language).

Hope these can help you.

Problem went ahead of me apparently. Now i am locked out from using Times New Roman Cyrillic (TrueType) in Word. I have tried and succeeded in modifying the regional settings. That didn't help. Back to Quark though. You said "When importing the text in Quark, make sure you're using the same font, or a font with the same encoding, and the language is set to the desired one (from Style > Character...).". So my situation is as follows - I have a text imported in Quark as Times New Roman (OpenType) could that be the problem, this one being OpenType and Cyrillic version is TrueType? I have tried changing the language, there is no Serbian in options, so i tryed used Russian/Greek/Bulgarian, without success.

 Try to adjust the appropiate setting in the preferences of your layout: having the document open in Quark, go to Edit > Preferences > Open and Save > Non-Unicode Support, and choose from the list "Cyrillic".

Tell me, please, if it works. If not, maybe we can get another solution.

Still nothing, I also checked for different combinations, eg. Cyrillic in those settings + Russian/Greek/Etc in Style->Character, not sure if it matters.

Bumping my question. tl;dr version: TrueType font not working. Conversion OpenType->TrueType from Quark not working. Regional settings(on Win), Style->Character and Non-Unicode/Cyriilic settings/support inside Quark not helping. Any ideas?

 Hi,

 

Unfortunately, I have no experience with Word 2010, I don't know how it works with other than Latin texts and if it works in the same mode as the previous versions.

The same is available for cyrillic Serbian - a have some experience with Greek and  Russian texts, but not with Serbian. I suppose it might work in the same mode as other non-Latin languages.

So, it is possible that your font does not meet the standard mapping of OpenType fonts, because Quark v.8 works either with this mapping, or with standard ASCII mapping for non-OpenType fonts (i.e. TruType or Type1 fonts). In the past I had myself a lot of trouble with fonts like this, because of certain Romanian diacritics not met in standard Latin fonts (or Western fonts).

You can check what kind of font is your Times:  open the Character Map utility (Start > Programs > Accesories > System Tools), choose your Times font in the upper field, then check the "Advanced" box in the lower left corner; the utility window will expand downwards. Click on "Character set" and check what posibilities there are for your Times font.

Meanwhile, note the position and the codes for some more used characters.

Then, switch to the Times New Roman font installed on your system by Windows itself, and check the same things for this font.

If there are differences between the two fonts, your Times used font in Word does not meet the OpenType mapping convention. In this case, it is not good and I'm afraid you have to change the font in Word, to see what happens and if the text can be "restored".

The single alternative I see for this case (if you do not want to change the font) is to use a font conversion utility (like CrossFont - it is not free!), but you have to know what you're doing (it's not too easy for a beginner)

Well, the font might be edited in a font editor (FonLab, FontForge or the new Fontographer v.5 which adds support for Unicode fonts), but neither this is a simple task.

 

There is an excellent book published in 2007 by OReilly I'd recommand for every professional: Fonts and Encodings - ISBN-13 978-0-596-10242-5 (I guess it can be found on Amazon, I've bought it in 2008).

 

Please, let us know how you'd solve this problem, it might be interesting for other Quark users.

 

Regards.