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Quark 9 Printing Spot + CMYK During Separation

Last post 01-29-2012 9:33 AM by Matthias Guenther (Quark). 32 replies.
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  • 07-12-2011 4:53 AM In reply to

    Re: Quark 9 Printing Spot + CMYK During Separation

    Is the lack of cookie the reason InRipSeparations hasn't worked for me with v8 or is it just a v9 thing?
    ... there was the puzzle of why the sun came out during the day, instead of at night when the light would come in useful.
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  • 07-13-2011 9:37 AM In reply to

    • rcantin
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    Re: Quark 9 Printing Spot + CMYK During Separation

    Hi Glenn,

    My understanding of this, is that V9 do not support anymore host-based separation ( say, printing or exporting to a PDF plate by plate ) as V8 did.

    But both V8 and V9 support InRip separation ( printing or exporting composite PDF ) cookie or not.

    Or am I missing something?

  • 07-14-2011 3:34 AM In reply to

    Re: Quark 9 Printing Spot + CMYK During Separation

    Hi rcantin,

    out of the box you are right, QuarkXPress 9 doesn't support it anymore.

    With the cookie available from us, it will be still possible in version 9, though most likely not anymore in the next major version (10?).

    Thanks
    Matthias


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  • 07-14-2011 7:53 AM In reply to

    • rcantin
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    Re: Quark 9 Printing Spot + CMYK During Separation

    Thanks, Matthias, for your reply.

    I was only wondering if its possible that Glenn used a reverse terminology in his post because V8 worked for me (as well as 6 and 7).

    Glenn McDowall:
    Is the lack of cookie the reason InRipSeparations hasn't worked for me with v8 or is it just a v9 thing?

  • 07-15-2011 7:18 AM In reply to

    Re: Quark 9 Printing Spot + CMYK During Separation

     Hi rcantin, thanks for your concern Smile I've muddled up InRipSeparations and Separated postscript, I thinkEmbarrassed

    Separated postscript stopped working (to film) here with v7, the old filmsetter RIP couldn't handle much of what came out of quark. We'd already moved on to ctp and that RIP handled the postscript fine so it wasn't too big a hassle to downsave the odd cutter and UV back down to quark6. Later we switched from Delta to Prinergy and whilst we moved to a 99%composite pdf workflow I've found some legacy quark files (we've packaging jobs that repeat going back to quark3) just either won't open up correctly into OSX quark's or won't separate the same. For example something that quark 5 writes separated postscript in 3 PANTONE colours, Quark 8 will write composite postscript with 9 colours C, CVC, U etc and the C will have different color space definitions too. Now some of these were nicely custom trapped with quark, and as I understand it InRIPSeparations is supposed to write a composite file that I can convert to PDF and it holds all the traps but I never had any success. I've also not really had much reason to pursue the problem because Prinergy gives me several workarounds either mapping the colours in the bad composite PDF or combining the legacy separated postscript into a composite PDF (not to mention the Trapping being much more flexible).

    I'm aiming to take a look at the quark9 demo maybe September when the bugs are a bit more ironed out, but hey it looks like Print is being deprecated[:'(].

     

    Matthais, just to continue the Hitch-hikers on a Friday theme... but if R+D are wanting to know how many people are using Separations and you hide it away so that nobody knows its there anymore, doesn't it sort of limit the numbers feeding back... thus self justifying the reasoning that its not needed because so few people have asked for it?   All sounds like a Vogon plot to me Ick!

    ... there was the puzzle of why the sun came out during the day, instead of at night when the light would come in useful.
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  • 07-29-2011 6:20 PM In reply to

    • MIKEL
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    Re: Quark 9 Printing Spot + CMYK During Separation

     CAN SOME ONE SEND ME THIS XML FILE BECAUSE I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THIS, I NEED THE COMPOSITE CMYK AND SPOT FOR

    QUARK EXPRESS 9, BECAUSE MY RIP CAN NOT SEPARATE THE PANTONES

     

  • 07-30-2011 4:46 AM In reply to

    Re: Quark 9 Printing Spot + CMYK During Separation

    Hi Mikel,

    as said in posts before, either contact our Tech Support or send me an email (using the contact button above this post) and we will make this available to you.

    Thanks
    Matthias

     


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  • 08-17-2011 2:12 PM In reply to

    Re: Quark 9 Printing Spot + CMYK During Separation

     I have had the same situation when printing. I am in need of a host-based solution.

    Please send me the  ".xml" file

     

    Thanks

     

  • 08-17-2011 2:20 PM In reply to

    Re: Quark 9 Printing Spot + CMYK During Separation

    Hi ksmith,

    can you please send me an email with your contact details? You can send an email when clicking on the Contact button above this post.

    Thanks
    Matthias


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  • 09-02-2011 11:19 AM In reply to

    Re: Quark 9 Printing Spot + CMYK During Separation

    I've always used the export to PDF 'Press' option when producing files for our production house, and it's the perfect way to evaluate the separations before they go anywhere, as well as being 100% compatible with them too. I too require the .xml file, otherwise I'll just have to go back to using Xpress 8, which is a real shame. I've sent Matthias a message.
  • 11-03-2011 9:48 AM In reply to

    Re: Quark 9 Printing Spot + CMYK During Separation

    I work for a large off-set printer, although we leave our RIP's to separate files, we still use the separation feature a-lot. It helps us produce foil blocking plates that we don’t do on site, also helps with cutting formes and varnish areas that may require external output. Having this simple control available to a designer or pre-press operator is essential to our work-flow.

     

    For you bods at Quark to think that “it’s not required anymore so lets get rid of it” is out of order. For many years I have been a faithful Quark user and insisted that my team produce their work in Quark as I have always felt that Quark understood print production better than the alternative. Perhaps this (and the other little bugs in 9.1) will be the final nail that sees me move our workflow over to Indesign.

     

    Very disappointing!!
  • 11-16-2011 8:10 AM In reply to

    • wgluck
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    Re: Quark 9 Printing Spot + CMYK During Separation

     please send me the xml file i need it send it to gwich@mindspring.com

  • 12-30-2011 12:42 PM In reply to

    Re: Quark 9 Printing Spot + CMYK During Separation

    Please send me the .xml file. I need to print separations.

    Thanks 

    electraminoa@yahoo.com


  • 01-03-2012 7:03 AM In reply to

    Re: Quark 9 Printing Spot + CMYK During Separation

    Hi everybody,

    the XML file (cookie) can be found online:

    https://quark.parature.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=1500

    Please make sure that you read the instructions and warnings.

    Thanks
    Matthias


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  • 01-18-2012 5:15 AM In reply to

    Re: Quark 9 Printing Spot + CMYK During Separation

    Hi Gunther, I'd also like to be able to print separations to pdf from quark 9.2. Would it be possible to send me the .xml file to put in my prefs folder that you mentioned in your post. My email is dom@tent.uk.com Many thanks, Dominic
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