Convert spot swatch_Quark 10 vs Quark 9

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Convert spot swatch_Quark 10 vs Quark 9

Postby OldDad » 13 Nov 2013, 08:36

1. Add PANTONE 287 C to a new a document in Quark 9 from Pantone+ Solid Coated Library.
2. Change Model to CMYK in edit color pallet. Result: 100c, 81.1m, 3.9y, 22.3k
3. Add PANTONE 287 C to a new a document in Quark 10 from Pantone+ Solid Coated Library.
4. Change Model to CMYK in edit color pallet. Result: 100c, 53.3m, .4y, 32.9k
Why is the same swatch separating differently?
Can anyone confirm this behavior or perhaps it's just me.

Color set-ups are the same in 9 & 10.
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Postby omegaman » 13 Nov 2013, 09:35

When I do convert spot 285C to CMYK in 9.5.3.1 I get the values: 100c / 72m / 2y / 12k.
In 10.0.1 I get exactly the same breakdown.
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Postby omegaman » 13 Nov 2013, 11:28

omegaman wrote:When I do convert spot 285C to CMYK in 9.5.3.1 I get the values: 100c / 72m / 2y / 12k.
In 10.0.1 I get exactly the same breakdown.
Sorry meant 287C NOT 285C.
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Postby OldDad » 14 Nov 2013, 02:54

Thanks for checking omegaman.
I can get your numbers by pulling 287 from the OLD Pantone Solid Coated Library which has its own cmyk values built in.

1/2 of our customers are using the NEW Pantone+(Plus) Solid Coated Library which is LAB only and Quark seems to be making the conversion somewhere. Trouble is, Q10 is different.

Are you certain you pulled 287 from Pantone+(Plus) Solid Coated Library?
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Postby OldDad » 14 Nov 2013, 04:59

I replied to omegaman and my reply never showed up. What gives?
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Postby omegaman » 14 Nov 2013, 09:28

OldDad wrote:Thanks for checking omegaman.
I can get your numbers by pulling 287 from the OLD Pantone Solid Coated Library which has its own cmyk values built in.

1/2 of our customers are using the NEW Pantone+(Plus) Solid Coated Library which is LAB only and Quark seems to be making the conversion somewhere. Trouble is, Q10 is different.

Are you certain you pulled 287 from Pantone+(Plus) Solid Coated Library?



My mistake. Here's the Pantone Solid Coated + values in 9: 100c - 84.3m - 12.5y - 2.2k and they are different in 10: 100c - 53.3m - 0.4y - 32.9k!
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Postby OldDad » 14 Nov 2013, 12:26

Well that makes two of us.
I think your 9 numbers are different from mine because we each have different Source & Output set-ups. I'm using GRACoL2006_Coated1v2.icc_source cmyk & GRACoL2006_Coated1v2.icc_As-Is_output. I think Quark 9 is working right.

Your 10 numbers are the same as mine. How can that be? I think Quark 10 is working wrong.
Maybe someone from Quark will chime in and point us in the right direction.
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Postby OldDad » 15 Nov 2013, 04:11

omegaman, I guess my reply didn't go through yesterday_trying again...
It looks like we have a similar problem.
Hopefully someone at Quark knows what's going on with this?
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