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GOODBYE & GOODLUCK

Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 11:51
by wutodd
You'll need it. Got my InDesign training this week and I loved it. Work will be making the switch in 2006 and I CAN NOT wait!

I am here on a DUAL 2 GHZ G5 and it takes 5 seconds to nudge something up one pixel. 5 seconds to turn guides on and off. 5 seconds to select something.

Sometimes we have days like this here and it isn't unusual really. Everyone's learned to put up with it.

You could blame it on our network, except that none of our other programs have the same problem. At all. Quark 6+ has been problem prone more than any other program I've ever seen.

GOODBYE & GOODLUCK

Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 13:56
by Dynamite
This is all very nice, but how easy is it to switch from Quark to InDesign? How easy is it to convert thousands of Quark documents to InDesign documents? What if your customer, your supplier or the printer doesn't use InDesign? Quark is still a standard in the industry, whether you like it or not. I'm also, sometimes, thinking of switching, but to what cost?

GOODBYE & GOODLUCK

Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 16:43
by wutodd
I work at a major direct marketing corporation that makes money in the tens of millions a year. Their entire creative department - switching. Savings over the long run.

Only templates need to be converted really.

But where is the savings when I am upgraded to a dual 2 gigahertz G5 - and it still takes me 5-10 seconds to switch a page or turn the guides off? I am not joking or embellishing about the delay that I often run into. How much productivity is lost there?

Quark has some major issues ...especially when run over a network.

InDesign is getting better and better about accepting Quark docus. And really how often do you need those quark docs that have been collecting dust on your hard drive for two years anyway?

And it is cheaper if you are buying illustrator and photoshop too then just buy the whole creative suite. Much cheaper.

GOODBYE & GOODLUCK

Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 16:56
by wutodd
In fact we here have developed a great new drinking game based off of the new slow quark.

Each time you get a "spinning beach ball" you have to take a drink javascriptemoticon(':o')

GOODBYE & GOODLUCK

Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 17:17
by synterx
You bring up good points, but I don't care anymore. I'm going for it. I look at it this way - if my printer doesn't take ID files, then they don't want my business, and I'll find a printer that does. I'll also buy the Markzware Q2ID plugin for $200 bucks and give it a go. Of course I will keep my copy of Quark 6.5 just in case, but I won't upgrade it anymore.

GOODBYE & GOODLUCK

Posted: 01 Dec 2005, 04:36
by studio@aba
We switched to InDesign wih no problems at all. Our printers were all using CS1 and upgraded to CS2 straight away when we informed them. If a printer does not have InDesign why not send a pdf?

InDesign is very user friendly. You can tell it to use quark shortcuts and even assign your own if you want to. I found that after a couple of jobs that I am faster in InDesign than I was in Quark. The layout of menus etc is adobe orientated (obviously) so in that respect it works more like illustrator or photoshop, but as I use both of these every day it is not a problem.

We will also be keeping up to date with quark as we do ocassionly get documents from clients from time to time but anything that is printed now will be InDesign.

:D

GOODBYE & GOODLUCK

Posted: 01 Dec 2005, 06:36
by BodesMan
[img]../../themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"> [strong]wutodd:[/strong]In fact we here have developed a great new drinking game based off of the new slow quark.

Each time you get a "spinning beach ball[/img]
Thats a great idea - I wish we were allowed to drink at work.

GOODBYE & GOODLUCK

Posted: 01 Dec 2005, 08:44
by Dynamite
I'm using Quark 6.5 on OSX 10.4.2 (Power Mac G5) and I've never had any problem at all. No waiting time even though we are working with huge files. I'm 100% satisfied with Quark. We also have InDesign installed so I'm very curious to know the real advantages. Are you sure it's Quark that's causing all this waiting?

GOODBYE & GOODLUCK

Posted: 01 Dec 2005, 09:28
by Macfool
[img]../../themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"> [strong]wutodd:[/strong]In fact we here have developed a great new drinking game based off of the new slow quark.

Each time you get a "spinning beach ball[/img]
Holy cow! you must get mashed!!

GOODBYE & GOODLUCK

Posted: 01 Dec 2005, 10:14
by Scripting_Ace
Post like this one always make me laugh...

How much more desperate can someone get?

Why do they feel the need to advertize to the world that they are going with another software?

On some points that were brought up in later posts. How could you blame Quark's productivity when worked over a network when the apllication itself is not made to do that. And that is not mentionning the fact that they are boosing on the job (That can only improve productivity right?).

Really people, be bitter all you want but the "true" culprit here is your poor "decision making process" in choosing a software that works for you as well as your inhability to organise your workflow around the tool of YOUR CHOICE.

Back to work!