7.3 PDF built in styles are backwards?

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geo
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7.3 PDF built in styles are backwards?

Post by geo » 01 Aug 2007, 10:25

The "preloaded" PDF styles are wrong.
I go to X1a prefs, and it picks "automatic zip jpg LOW"

I go to Press hi quality and it picks auto zip jpg LOW.
I go to print med quality and it pics auto zip jpg MED.

Now, I realize we have been sreaming at Q to get a usable product out. But this??? That is all we need is to trust Q has a proper setting built in, make PDF, and have lo-res ads go out.

Where is the quality control/testing on this??

thing
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7.3 PDF built in styles are backwards?

Post by thing » 01 Aug 2007, 10:36

Is it possible 'low' means low compression, ie high quality?

I seem to remember reading somewhere that one or other program has this backwards! For me, I'd read low as low quality, or high compression. I wonder.

geo
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7.3 PDF built in styles are backwards?

Post by geo » 01 Aug 2007, 10:47

Would not suprise me a bit.
When you see choices in this order:

High
Medium High
Medium
Medium Low
Low

One would assume that compression:high means highest quality.
Acrobat's distiller, of course, lists under a separate pull down called quality. ie, quality:high, quality:low, etc.

How about it, Q?

thing
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7.3 PDF built in styles are backwards?

Post by thing » 03 Aug 2007, 03:45

Quark folks - any chance of a comment on this please?

I suspect the info is out there somewhere, but I'm a bit strapped for time today and I'd really like to know.

In Quark export terms does 'low' mean low compression or low quality (high compression)?

My feeling is opposite to GWamser - I think high means high compression therefore low quality. But it'd be really helpful to get a definitive word on this, thanks!

Greg

gharris
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7.3 PDF built in styles are backwards?

Post by gharris » 03 Aug 2007, 10:54

Hi there -

When we say "Compression" it is the amount of compression we are applying to the image. HIGH compression means that it is compressing the images more. So, the quality will be reduced.
When you see LOW compression - you are getting better quality.

Just to make sure we are clear...
When we say "Quality" like in JPEG compression Maximum means maximum quality.

Hope this clears it up.

thing
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7.3 PDF built in styles are backwards?

Post by thing » 03 Aug 2007, 10:58

It does, thanks. As suspected, then, GWamser had it backward in his original post.

Thanks!

Greg

a.hayton
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7.3 PDF built in styles are backwards?

Post by a.hayton » 08 Aug 2007, 07:20

For anyone used to distiller, Quarks terminology is the opposite, so if you set high in Distiller then you set low in Quark.

geo
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7.3 PDF built in styles are backwards?

Post by geo » 08 Aug 2007, 09:58

Adobe invented PDF.

Sure would have been nice if "everyone else" uses the terminology as adobe does. That would have avoided all the confusion.

It seems whenever quark adds a feature, they try to "make it their own" by using their own naming convention.

This is one instance where they should have stuck with the naming standard that adobe uses.

thing
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7.3 PDF built in styles are backwards?

Post by thing » 08 Aug 2007, 10:27

Yup, totally agree. That's one of the beauties of the Mac, I've always felt - consistency. cmd-c copies, in all programs. Etc..

But as you say, Quark go their own way and always have. I remember how annoying it was, and occasionally still is, that they use a different keyboard combination to zoom than anyone else, for instance!

Greg

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7.3 PDF built in styles are backwards?

Post by rcantin » 08 Aug 2007, 12:11

Hum, not sure about Quark's fault here, read in other treads its a copyright thing, go figure...

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