Spotcolor without knockout

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ove-ultra-design
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Spotcolor without knockout

Post by ove-ultra-design » 15 Dec 2014, 05:58

Hi
I want to deliver PDF for pinting in CMYK + Spotcolor= Silver.
This color is solid and can be printet as last color upon a black box.
To avoid any "miss pass" i want no knockout in the black color. I can not find the way to do it in Quark 9.5
Tips?

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Re: Spotcolor without knockout

Post by MikeWenzloff » 15 Dec 2014, 09:49

A silver Pantone spot overprinted on black is going to be a lot of ink and will likely be more black than silver. I think anyway.

In any case, select your spot colored object you want to overprint and in the upper right of the color panel, click on the yellow icon and change it to overprint. It only affects that object so other objects colored with that swatch are unaffected. You can/should check the PDF but it works fine.

Mike

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Re: Spotcolor without knockout

Post by max.peter » 15 Dec 2014, 14:29

You can also use the 'Trap Information' palette (Window > Trap Information, or Ctrl+F12/Cmd+F12). Select the object/text, then choose your setting in the palette.
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Re: Spotcolor without knockout

Post by UtahLlama » 15 Dec 2014, 16:09

mixing spot silver and process inks isn't straight forward.
If you are printing litho, cmyk won't stick very well to PANTONE 871 or similar metallic ink, so you'd usually knock out a hole in the silver if you want a dark black or use specialist UV inks. Conversely if you are going to FOIL a silver on top of black, thats a separate process and because the silver is completely opaque you'd overprint it on top of the black, the downside here would be that a correct composite pdf would look incorrect in the pdf.
I'd suggest talking to your printer to find out how they'd like it supplied, if it was me and it was a foil I'd prefer a separate page for the foil only.

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Re: Spotcolor without knockout

Post by ove-ultra-design » 16 Dec 2014, 05:56

Thanks for reply
I now found that I can do the setup in "Trap info". My version of Quark 9.5 does not have any icon for this in the color-menu.
This works for text, but for a Illustrator graphic it does not.

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Re: Spotcolor without knockout

Post by max.peter » 16 Dec 2014, 07:12

Of course it does!
The "silver" can be any other spot color even in Illustrator. Take into consideration working with separations or working on different layers.
What you have to do is to maintain a full 100% shade for the used spot color.

I made myself a lot of layouts with CMYK and silver/gold solid colors.
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Re: Spotcolor without knockout

Post by UtahLlama » 16 Dec 2014, 16:02

In Illustrator, Overprint settings can be found in the Attributes Panel.

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Re: Spotcolor without knockout

Post by ove-ultra-design » 17 Dec 2014, 04:21

Hi
Thanks for all help. Merry Cristmas from Norway!

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